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09 Oct 2014
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On Thursday, October 9, 2014, sunderasr . wrote:
Seems to me, that , more than adequate response is being given to the Pakis Courtesey-Col Anand Sachdeva 1 hr •
On the LOC: Shamik MoitraIs this you? 3 Cheers for Indian Military Forces OUR MASSIVE MILITARY RETALIATION ON PAKISTANI FORCES:
What MSM will not tell you
This is based on what I have gathered from civil servants in appropriate ministries, certain political actors and significant folks within our armed services.
Some of this is perhaps apocryphal but its entirely trustworthy.
Here's what's going on:
1. The PMO explicitly intervened 48 hours ago in the wee hours of Monday and asked our forces to initiate all out punitive retaliation
2. Since then our field artillery including medium 105 & 120 mm guns and 155 mm howitzers, heavy rocket batteries and 100 & 81 mm mortar units have been blasting every inch of Pakistani soil within 1 km of the border/ LoC from Kargil to Rajouri, RS Pura to Jammu
3. More than 10,000 shells have been fired and over 500,000 rounds of light and heavy machine guns 4. Pakis have lost around 165 people which includes 85 military personnel 5. Approximately 80-90 Pakistani posts have been either fully destroyed or compromised severely to render them operationally ineffective
6. About 400-450 jihadi bastardswaiting to cross over have been shifted back to their staging area from forward areas
7. We have now deployed Brahmos batteries across the entire international border.
8. This is only the beginning. Paki warnuts have now scurried off to the UN and officially sought help to reign in our forces who have been given a free hand to fight effectively
9. Our armed forces are jubiliant as this is the first time since 1999 that they have been given a free hand
10. Incidentally our ammunition stocks, which reached an all time precarious low under the UPA regime have now been substantially re-stocked and we have sufficient reserves to fight long engagements or intense wars
11. We have kept strike jets on standby and strike corps of the army to staging areas. Tank brigades are ditto. Western Naval Command is on full alert.This response is just in support of more than adequate border elements who are punishing Pakis and not to be construed as a war move
Do not subscribe to rubbish stories promoted in MSM by erstwhile political powers re: the PM is doing nothing.
This is a national response and for the first time its being handled right.
First principle: you cannot reason with Pakistan. Incidentally, the Chinese backed down from Chumar faced with uncharacteristic aggression from our army boys who sent in 1,500 soldiers to confront 1,000 Chinese. The Chinese blinked first.
Islamabad shocked as Indian Army launches 'massive' retaliation to border firing... and confident PM Modi promises 'everything will be all right soon'
Abhishek Bhalla and Gautam Datt
09 Oct 2014
Islamabad may not be awed, but it certainly is shocked by the ferocity and volume of the Indian response to ceasefire violations along the International Border in Jammu and Kashmir.
Given complete freedom to act by the government, the Indian Army and Border Security Force are firing back at will from every spot the Pakistanis have targeted.
The volume and intensity of India’s return fire is much higher than the usual calibrated response the Pakistanis have come to expect.
Top government sources told Mail Today that Indian forces are systematically targeting infrastructure and force deployment nodes on the other side.
The damage on the other side is so highthat Pakistan is,according to an internal report sent to South Block by the Indian mission in Islamabad,“ducking for cover”.
A media blackout of sorts is in place in Pakistan’s affected areas, so as to keep a lid on the extent of damage suffered. Pakistan’s military establishment is on the verge of losing face, and it doesn’t like the evolving situation one bit.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi was the picture of confidence on Thursdayevening during a function at Air Chief Arup Raha’s residence.
“Everything will be all right soon,” he said.
The government is understood to have also told Indian forces not to seek any flag meeting with the other side, thus sending the signal that it is in no mood to ease situation on the border with Pakistan until the ceasefire violations come to a complete halt.
Top government sources said that firing on the International Border was a result of Islamabad’s frustration over New Delhi blocking all of its attempts to internationalise the Kashmir issue.
[T.V.] Channels shutIndia’s massive retaliation to the ceasefire violations has resulted in at least 35 deaths across the border, as per an assessment based on open sources.
The government is not prepared to hold any discussion with Pakistan until the firing stops, as it wants to underline the point that Islamabad cannot dictate the terms of dialogue.
The border move is no flash in the pan; it comes after a series of deft diplomatic moves.
A top government functionary said a series of steps were taken in recent weeks to block every attempt by Pakistan to internationalise the Kashmir issue.
To begin with, the UN Military Observer Group (UNMOGIP) was made irrelevant.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s address to the UN General Assembly in New York ensured that Kashmir was not allowed to dominate the agenda.
Coupled with some diplomatic engagements with Japan and China, the moves ensured that the Kashmir issue became irrelevant.
Calling off the foreign secretary level dialogue with Pakistan because of its continued parleys with Hurriyat leaders also played a part in frustrating Pakistan.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi, who is busy touring Haryana and Maharashtra where Assembly elections are due, has remained in close touch with the service chiefs to get the updates on the situation on the border.Sources said New Delhi is prepared for a long haul and will not stop at massive retaliation until its objective of keeping the sanctity of the ceasefire is met.
The reason
Firing along the Line of Control would not have attracted international attention, and sources ascribed this as the reason for why the International Border was chosen for a series of ceasefire violations.
But it hasn’t worked, and there is no pressure on India to scale down firing, said sources.
India does not want to give any space to Pakistan that can dilute or weaken New Delhi’s basic condition of ‘no dialogue in the shadow of gun’.
By resorting to tactics like ceasefire violations, Islamabad is only making matters worse, sources said.
Another reason for Pakistan’s latest border tantrum is the government’s concern that the BJP may do well in the forthcoming Assembly elections in the state and thus have a major say in a possible coalition government.Sources said there has not been major ceasefire violation along the Line of Controlsince Wednesday, but the International Border,particularly in the Jammu region, continues to be rocked by firing.
Secretary (Border Management) Snehlata Kumar has briefed Home Secretary Anil Goswami, who also met National Security Advisor Ajit Doval.
BSF chief D.K. Pathak is on the ground assessing the situation and personally supervising operations.
“Pakistani troops are targeting the civilian areas because they think that they are not being able to cause any big damage to the BSF posts,” he said, adding that at present there is no talk of a flag meeting.
IAF chief Arup Raha also said that firing on the border was “serious” and that the government wanted a quick resolution of the problem.
The latest episode marks a considerable toughening of India’s stand on border stand-offs. Similar resistance was shown during the stand-off in eastern Ladakh’s Chumar area last month.
After India refused to budge, the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) vacated its positions in the disputed territory and agreed to the pre-1 September situation.
'Pakistan didn't anticipate reprisals'
By Saurabh Shukla in New Delhi
It seems Pakistan’s military establishment did not anticipate a strong Indian response to the shelling at the Line of Control (LoC) and International Border.
According to an internal report sent by the Indian mission in Islamabad to South Block, the Pakistani military establishment is now running for cover in the face of India’s retaliation.
Pakistan Rangers have been resorting to unprovoked mortar shelling and heavy firing along the International Border, particularly since Monday.
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STRONG RESPONSE ON THE LOC BY INDIA
Brig. Hemant Mahajan (retd)
09 October 2014
As far as the UPA regime's policy was concerned, it was one of turning the other cheek. I am reminded of what Winston Churchill said," An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last".
On Thursday, October 9, 2014, sunderasr . wrote:
Seems to me, that , more than adequate response is being given to the Pakis Courtesey-Col Anand Sachdeva 1 hr •
On the LOC: Shamik MoitraIs this you? 3 Cheers for Indian Military Forces OUR MASSIVE MILITARY RETALIATION ON PAKISTANI FORCES:
What MSM will not tell you
This is based on what I have gathered from civil servants in appropriate ministries, certain political actors and significant folks within our armed services.
Some of this is perhaps apocryphal but its entirely trustworthy.
Here's what's going on:
1. The PMO explicitly intervened 48 hours ago in the wee hours of Monday and asked our forces to initiate all out punitive retaliation
2. Since then our field artillery including medium 105 & 120 mm guns and 155 mm howitzers, heavy rocket batteries and 100 & 81 mm mortar units have been blasting every inch of Pakistani soil within 1 km of the border/ LoC from Kargil to Rajouri, RS Pura to Jammu
3. More than 10,000 shells have been fired and over 500,000 rounds of light and heavy machine guns 4. Pakis have lost around 165 people which includes 85 military personnel 5. Approximately 80-90 Pakistani posts have been either fully destroyed or compromised severely to render them operationally ineffective
6. About 400-450 jihadi bastardswaiting to cross over have been shifted back to their staging area from forward areas
7. We have now deployed Brahmos batteries across the entire international border.
8. This is only the beginning. Paki warnuts have now scurried off to the UN and officially sought help to reign in our forces who have been given a free hand to fight effectively
9. Our armed forces are jubiliant as this is the first time since 1999 that they have been given a free hand
10. Incidentally our ammunition stocks, which reached an all time precarious low under the UPA regime have now been substantially re-stocked and we have sufficient reserves to fight long engagements or intense wars
11. We have kept strike jets on standby and strike corps of the army to staging areas. Tank brigades are ditto. Western Naval Command is on full alert.This response is just in support of more than adequate border elements who are punishing Pakis and not to be construed as a war move
Do not subscribe to rubbish stories promoted in MSM by erstwhile political powers re: the PM is doing nothing.
This is a national response and for the first time its being handled right.
First principle: you cannot reason with Pakistan. Incidentally, the Chinese backed down from Chumar faced with uncharacteristic aggression from our army boys who sent in 1,500 soldiers to confront 1,000 Chinese. The Chinese blinked first.